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Council Agenda Item 4 a
MEETING DATE: September 18, 2008
AGENDA ITEM: Minutes -Requested Action: Approve the Council minutes of
September 4, 2008
SUBMITTED BY: Administration
BOARD/COMMISSION/COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION:
PREVIOUS COUNCIL ACTION:
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
BUDGET/FISCAL IMPACT:
ATTACHMENTS:
Minutes of September 4, 2008
REQUESTED COUNCIL ACTION: Approve the minutes of September 4, 2008
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Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the City Council for the City of ST. Joseph met in regular session
on Thursday, September 4, 2008 at 7:00 PM in the St. Joseph City Hall.
Members Present: Mayor AI Rassier. Councilors Dale Wick, Renee Symanietz, Steve Frank, Rick
Schultz. Administrator Judy Weyrens.
Citv Representatives Present: City Engineer Randy Sabart, Public Works Director Terry Thene, Police
Chief Pete Jansky, Finance Director Lori Bartlett.
Others Present: Mike McDonald, Mari Terese Woida, Gen Maiers, Linda Buttenhoff, Brad Cobb, Pat
Shea.
Public Comments (Graceview Estates): Sarah Pennings (Ellie Court) and Linda Butenhoff (514 Ellie
Court) approached the Council to discuss the Graceview Estates Proposed Development. Pennings
stated that she is speaking on behalf of the Graceview Residents requesting the City Council deny the
special use permit to allow the construction of two apartment facilities. Pennings requested that she be
provided with the copy of the Development Agreements for the past Graceview projects and copies of the
application material for the Graceivew PURD that was approved in 2001. Pennings stated that
Graceview Estates neighborhood consists of many families with children. The proposed development of
two apartment complexes, in her opinion, will compromise the safety as the roads are not designed for
excessive traffic. She further stated that 4'h Avenue SE is the only proposed road for ingress/egress for
the proposed development and as the development is not completed, there are gaps in the trail system
forcing residents to walk in the street.
Linda Buttenhoff requested clarification on the use of the term PU UD as when the development
was initially approved the plat was considered a PURD and onden on the plat today make
references to PUD. She also requested clarification on whi rdina ces, i y, are being used to review
the proposed development before the Planning Co 'sion e.
Rassier stated that the City Counci of iew t tt s the Planning Commission has
conducted the public heari d to d a to a I information. At this time it would not
be appropriate for the i 'sc tte s they do not have the information before them nor
has the Planning Com sion su itt a rec dation.
Buttenhoff stated that sh d P ings approached the City Council as they are the Officials that have
been elected to represent dents, not the Planning Commission.
Agenda Approval: Symanietz made a motion to approve the agenda with the additions/deletions listed
below. The motion was seconded by Wick
Discussion: Frank requested that the Graceview Estates Development Project be added to the
agenda. Rassier stated that it is not appropriate to discuss this matter at this meeting as the Planning
Commission is still working on this matter. Wick concurred with Rassier and stated that discussing this
matter before a recommendation is forwarded to the Council from the Planning Commission and without
having the matter on the agenda could place the City in a liability situation. Wick discouraged the Council
from adding this matter to the agenda, requesting that the Council wait to discuss the matter until a
recommendation has been forwarded from the Planning Commission. Frank stated that he understands
the role of the Planning Commission but has some general questions and if his questions or too specific
or place the City in a liability situation he should be stopped.
Frank also requested the Council add the role of the APO to the agenda as he has some general
questions regarding this membership as well.
This motion amends the agenda as follows:
Add: 11 (b) Graceview Estates
11 (c) Role of the St. Cloud APO
11 (d) Water Treatment Plant Update
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Delete: 11 (a) Parkway Business Center
Ayes: Symanietz, Frank, Schultz
Nays: Rassier, Wick Motion Carried 3:2:0
Consent Agenda: Symanietz made a motion to approve the consent agenda; seconded by Wick
and passed unanimously.
Discussion: Frank stated that he questioned his comments in the August 21, 2008 City Council
meeting. The minutes stated that he did not agree to any of the preferred alternatives for Field Street and
what he did say was that he favors G2 or G4 as they have been labeled by WSB.
a. Minutes -Approve the minutes of August 11 and August 21, 2008.
b. Bills Payable -Approve Check Numbers 040661- 0406698 and EFT 000204 - 000209.
c. Pay Application -Authorize the Mayor to execute Pay Application #8 for the 2007 Jade Road
Improvement Project and authorize payment to R.L. Larson in the amount of $ 76,463.78.
d. Grant Application -Authorize the Mayor and Administrator to execute two grant agreements
with the State of Minnesota for Alcohol Enforcement, one for alcohol/tobacco compliance and
one for sale to minors.
e. Gambling Reports -Accept the 2"d Quarter Gambling Reports as presented.
St. Cloud Public Utilities. Pat Shea - St. Cloud Public Utilities Director Pat Shea appeared before the
Council to discuss the Parkwood Lift Station. Shea stated that the City of St. Cloud has had a number of
infrastructure failures that have created a need to review all the infrastru nd prepare a maintenance
and capital improvement plan. Earlier this year the Parkwood Inte d a failure required a portion
of the pipe to be repaired. The cost of repair on this interce a resp sibility of the Cities of St.
Cloud, Waite Park and St. Joseph. The cost apportionmen base on th rchased capacity with St.
Cloud and Waite Park contributing 40% each and sep
In addition to lining a failure at the oo 'ft St io c rols and electrical system need to be
updated. The City of St. CI as ed S as t oje eer for this modification. The
modification includes t s 'o ve and structure to house the equipment.
Don Lutch of SEH appro hed th o it to discuss the project. The pumps at the facility are
approximately 30 years o nd mec anics are located below ground. By constructing an above
ground facility the mainten the equipment is more efficient and safer. Additionally, the facility will
include a generator and the wilding will help deflect the noise. The building has been designed for
minimum maintenance and longevity. Since the building is located in Waite Park along a major corridor,
the City of Waite Park has been involved in the design. The building will consist of concrete block with
glass block at the top.
Frank questioned the budget for the project and cost to the City as this is a project where the City does
not have a choice. Shea stated that the project cost was originally estimated at 1.5 M. The area Cities
have requested that St. Cloud bond for the improvements and each City would then be billed for the
improvements. Each City independently would determine how they will finance the improvement. It is
anticipated that the bond will be issued for 10 years with the first payment in 2010.
Wick questioned the estimated cost, requesting clarification on the City investment. Information
presented to the Council indicates that the cost to St. Joseph is $ 250,000. If the project cost is 1.5
Million and the City portion is 23.18% the cost to St. Joseph would be $ 347,000 not $ 250,000. Shea
stated that the 1.5 M figure was an estimate when the project began. Based on the current rates, the
Engineer's estimate is lower, thus the reduced fee to St. Joseph. The cost apportionment to each City is
based on the allocated capacity.
Wick questioned the design of the building and if the costs could be reduced by designing a less aesthetic
building. Shea stated that the building costs are the smaller portion of the improvement with the majority
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of cost replacing and updating the mechanics and controls. Lutch indicated that the cost of the building is
approximately $ 80,000. Wick questioned if other lift stations in St. Cloud are designed with similar
aesthetics. Shea stated that if the lift station were located in an industrial park the design would be
different. However, in the case of the Parkwood Lift Station it is located abutting residential and
commercial land use in addition to a major corridor. Wick questioned if Waite Park is paying for the
higher aesthetic materials to which Shea stated they are not. He further stated that St. Cloud wants to be
a good neighbor and work with the community where infrastructure is being located.
Frank questioned if as St. Joseph grows an additional lift station will be required. Shea stated that the
Parkwood Lift Station is a main lift station and St. Joseph will not need another station of this magnitude.
Public Works Director Terry Thene stated that St. Joseph has lift stations within the City to transfer the
waste to the main lift station. As the City grows area lift stations will be added but they are small facilities.
The City will, however, have to complete major modifications to the main lift station on 1St Avenue NW
(located near the former maintenance facility)..
City Engineer Reports - No Report
Mayor Reports
Appreciation of Staff -Rassier reported that the Cable Commission has added Abbey Loso to assist with
the tapping of City meetings and updating of the bulletin board. Rassier also expressed appreciation to
the City Staff for their commitment to St. Joseph.
FRANK
Council Reports
~ed by bar owners to request the
a for request to extend the
sted th xtended time. Rassier
d establis ent is not soliciting the
that with the General Election in
2 AM Bar Closing -Frank reported that he has still not bee
extended bar hours and questioned if the bar owners have
hours. Frank also clarified that it was two bar own at
stated that while only two have requeste exte e ~
change but will follow if the Council s tim F
November, this may be an.g,tion ue. _
Local Candidate Forum's ranks e d that'~'ity participate in a local candidate forum for the
Mayoral and Council rac In the t tion a local resident coordinated the forum which required a
considerable amount of ti R er s ated that the League of Women Voters sponsors a forum each
election and invite candida t. Joseph. Frank stated that he would like to see a forum held in St.
Joseph for only the local races.
SCHULTZ
Term Limits/Length of Office -Schultz questioned how to place matters on the ballot such as changing
the term of Mayor and incorporating term limits on subsidiary boards. Weyrens stated that she has
previously reported that both items are changed through Ordinance amendments. The term length for
Mayor becomes effective after an election provided the Ordinance was amended and published four
weeks prior to the closing of filing. This deadline could not be met for 2008 but can be considered for a
future election. With regard to term limits for Boards/Commissions, that can be changed by Ordinance
Amendment and publication. The Council agreed to discuss this matter after the first of the year and
when this matter is discussed all Board Members and Commissioners should be listed along with the time
they started service and when their term expires.
WICK - No Report
SYMANIETZ
Centra Care Ground Breaking - Symanietz reported that she along with other members of the Council
attended the ground breaking ceremony for the new medical facility.
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Meetings Attended - Symanietz reported that she attended the APO meeting where transportation
funding was discussed. Frank stated that he attended the same meeting and they indicated that due to
budget cuts, MnDot has been forced to eliminate the long range planning employees and focus on plans
for up to three years.
Legislative Uodate: Representative Larry Hosch approached the Council to provide an overview of the
legislative session of 2008 and anticipated topics for the 2009 session. Hosch highlighted the following:
• The State of Minnesota had a $ 935 M deficit which was covered by: 1) cutting services and
programs - $ 300 M; 2) Cash flow/reserve - $ 500 M; 3) increased revenues -balance.
• St. Joseph experienced $ 120,000 increase in LGA with a reduction of $ 27,000 for the levy.
Frank questioned the exemption for Policy and Emergency Services to which Hosch
acknowledged
• Transportation was a big issue with the State making a $ 6.6 Billion dollar investment over the
next 10 years.
• Home foreclosures will continue to be a big topic. Legislative changes were made requiring utility
companies to notify municipalities if they terminate services. When the utilities were terminated
without municipalities being notified, water lines were freezing and breaking causing substantial
damage to the home. It is the responsibility of the utility company to notify the City.
• Look ahead to 2009 -LGA will continue to be a target as it is forecasted that the State will have a
deficit of $ 1.05 M.
Schultz questioned Hosch about contacting the chair of the Tax Committee as he has emailed her and
left phone messages without a response. Schultz stated that he would like t ave some discussion
about tax exempt property. Hosch stated that he would contact the ch is behalf. Schultz
questioned Hosch as to available funding or tax rebates for rene n y. Hosch stated that at this
time there is limited funding but anticipates this will be a to ' e 2009 islative Session.
Frank questioned Hosch regarding the service pro by estate at earlier he reported that
MnDot no longer has planners on staff are I g e ns. Hosch stated that transportation will
continue to be a big issue in 2009. not sibl al a needs of the State with funds that are
available. MnDot can onl or w ' vem s, no i tenance and the State has fallen behind
in maintenance.
Admi ator Reports
Water Treatment Plant U te~ yrens reported that she received a written proposal from Mazda
Consultants to analyze the ing at the Water Treatment Plant. At the last Council meeting the
Council authorized up to $ 2,000 for the independent review. The actual cost for the review is $ 2,200 as
the City is requesting the consultant visit the site and prepare calculations based on their review. Schultz
made a motion to hire Mazda Consultants to prepare an independent review of the wood
laminated beams in the water filtration plant to determine if the checking is normal and the weight
loads are sufficiently handled at a cost $ 2,200. The motion was seconded by Frank and passed
unanimously.
APO Benefit -Frank stated that Bills Payable included the second half assessment for the City of St.
Joseph and he was informed that the City pays an annual assessment of $ 5,900. While Frank stated he
is a strong advocate of regional planning, he is concerned how the APO makes decisions and the
benefits received by the residents of St. Joseph. He stated that the Executive Board of the APO meets
monthly and makes recommendations to the Full Board and it is anticipated that the Full Board will ratify
the recommendations of the Executive Committee. Frank stated that he became so frustrated at the last
meeting that he left early. Frank also questioned the function of the TAC for the APO.
Rassier stated that the Executive Committee was started as the APO realized that discussing all the items
at the Full Board meeting was not efficient as there were too many participants. Rassier stated that he
too shares the sentiments of Frank and questions the value received from the APO. In 2009 the City will
be asked to help fund the purchase of the APO Building creating increased dues.
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City Engineer Randy Sabart stated that the TAC meets monthly and review projects, current and future.
The recommendations of the TAC are forwarded to the Executive Committee. Weyrens stated that staff
can provide an update to the Council on the monthly TAC meetings and include the packet material if
possible.
When asked about the benefits received from the APO, Weyrens stated that the City has received
funding for the current transportation studies through the APO. Both Field Street and the North
East/West Corridor studies have been funded. Weyrens stated that staff can provide with the Council
with benefits received.
Councilor Wick stepped down from his chair at 8:20 PM as the Council was to start the discussion on
Graceview Estates. Wick stated that he is the liaison to the Planning Commission and does not believe
the Council should be discussing the Graceview Estates matter before the Commission forwards a
recommendation to the Council. He further stated that he does not want to be in a situation where the
City has increased liability exposure; therefore he is stepping down and leaving the Council Chambers
and will resume his chair when the Council is finished discussing Graceview Estates.
Graceview Estates: Frank stated that he requested this matter be placed on the agenda for further
clarification. He stated that he is sure that all members have been receiving emails and he would like
general clarification on the following: Who is the developer; past process; impact of current Ordinance
versus past Ordinance; PURD process; requirement to uphold the 2001 decision.
Weyrens provided the following information:
• S ~ H Partnerhsip and they manage a number of facilitie of St. Cloud. A list of
properties will be included in the Planning Commis ' et.
• The City Staff has prepared a table illustrati the inanc requir ents of 2001/2002 when
the project was approved and the current ance. le illus tes that the project can
meet the provisions of either Or ' e wi t xce n of the rezo ing. The Attorney will
provide information as to rdi nce is information will be available before the
September 8, 200 in o ion ing.
• In 2001/2002 t R di of quire the developer to rezone the entire parcel. The
parcel was allo d to be v ed as 1. The preliminary plat was approved with the
concept plan illu ting t int ed uses. This concept plan was followed as the area has been
developed.
• A final plat is not a ed for the entire plat, rather, as each phase is developed a final plan is
developed for that phase and a development agreement is executed at the same time.
• The Planning Commission is a recommending body to the City Council as the Council has given
the Planning Commission the Statutory authority to conduct the public hearings. The Council
makes a decision based on the information forwarded to the Council.
Frank questioned whether or not the Planning Commission can open the public hearing as it was closed
on August 4, 2008. Weyrens stated that there has been enough new information presented that would
support opening the public hearing for the new information that has been presented. Rassier encouraged
the Graceview residents to pick a spokesperson to speak at the Planning Commission meeting.
Rassier stated that the staff is in the process of preparing answers to the questions raised in various
emails and the master list of questions and answers will be placed on the website as well as the revised
site plans. While this is a difficult decision, Rassier stated that he respects the process and the Council
should wait to make a decision until it is received from the Planning Commission.
Wick resumed his chair at 8:35 PM and the Council recessed for 10 minutes.
2009 Preliminary Budget: Weyrens presented the Council with the proposed preliminary levy for 2008,
collectible 2009. Weyrens stated in the past the Council had to determine the dollar value to be levied to
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support the General Fund. This year, the decision is more about how the levy will be allocated as the City
must abide by levy limits as set by the Legislature. Once the preliminary budget is certified, the City can
only reduce the levy not increase. The proposed General Fund levy for 2009 is $ 1,184,246 supporting a
General Fund Budget of $ 2,607,202. Weyrens stated that even with the proposed levy the general fund
expenditures will need to be reduced to have a balanced budget.
The Council reviewed the proposed General Fund Budget and questioned line items where the budget
and year to date had large discrepancies. The majority of questions related to re-allocating how items are
coded. The Council questioned if the budget includes a full time staff for EDA to which Weyrens stated it
did not. The Council should schedule a meeting to further discuss the General Fund Budget and Capital
Improvement Plan at which times options will be presented to the Council.
Schultz stated that he would like to have a discussion on activating the partnership with the Stearns
County HRA. Weyrens stated that the EDA Director has already made this contact and will be meeting
with HRA to discuss opportunities. Schultz stated he would like to see a program established whereby
the City could purchase some of the older homes for redevelopment, particularly in the downtown area.
He would also like information as to how programs are formed. Another initiative Schultz would like to
see included in the budget is green alternatives and incentives for such.
Frank made a motion authorize the Mayor and Administrator to execute Resolution 2008-12
Adopting the proposed 2008 Tax Levy, Collectible in 2009. This resolution established a
preliminary levy of $ 1,824,602 supporting a general fund budget of $ 2,607,202. The motion was
seconded by Symanietz and passed unanimously.
Weyrens stated that the Council must also determine the night
continuation hearing if needed. The Council agreed to esta '
TNT Hearing and December 11, 2008 at 7:00 PM as the co
With regard to additional budget
Adjourn: Symanietz
unanimously.
in Taxation Hearing and
2008 at 7:00 PM as the
if needed.
a dates for {~tential meetings.
by Schultz and passed
Judy Weyrens
Administrator