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Council Agenda Item 6
MEETING DATE:
AGENDA ITEM:
SUBMITTED BY:
November 6, 2008
2 AM Bar Closing
Administration
BOARD/COMMISSION/COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION:
PREVIOUS COUNCIL ACTION: The City Council conducted a public hearing on October 16, 2008 to
accept testimony on the potential extension of bar hours until 2:00 AM.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION: During the public hearing a couple of questions were raised regarding
licensing and terms of the license. To gather additional information, the area Cities were contacted as
well as MN Gambling/Alcohol. For your convenience I have attached the emails from the Cities that
have responded (Waite Park, St. Cloud and Sartell). All have the 2AM bar closing and have not
experienced any enforcement issues and none of them restrict the nights that 2AM is available.
The license and additional fee is administered by the State of Minnesota and the licenses run for 12
months from the date of issue which is unlike the other licenses. All other liquor licenses have ending
dates of either June 30 (intoxicating) or December 31 (non intoxicating). They suggested that if the City
amends the Ordinance all licenses are submitted to the State at one time so they all have the same
issuance date. The fee the State charges is based on gross on-sale receipts and are either $ 300, $ 750, $
1,000.
The City has the ability to revoke a license provided they have a policy or Ordinance for such. The State
of MN is not the enforcement agency for the 2AM bar closing, it is still local control as are other
licenses. The City would have the ability to base a decision on the 2AM for violations, but again, the
enabling Ordinance must include this language. The City does have the ability to restrict the license to
certain days of the week, however, the State does not prorate the license fee.
When discussing adding a fee for the Z AM license, the City will have to provide evidence of what
additional fees are incurred to raise the fees. The fee must have a nexus to the 2AM closing. None of
the area Cities charge an additional City Fee.
On a related licensing matter, during the monthly CSB/SJU/City Administrative meetings we have been
discussing the alcohol issues and minor consumption. CSB/SJU have offered to purchase ID readers for
all the bars that detect fake ID's . However, the College is reluctant to purchase the equipment unless
the bars are willing to use them.
In a discussion with the City and County Attorney, the City could amend the current Ordinance to
require establishments to use the device. The City could also look at the license structure and have a
higher license for those establishments that do not use the device. Proof of use would be the submittal
of fake ID's to the Police Department. The establishments should be turning the fake ID's to the
department but for many reasons they do not. If the devices are required, the license holders should be
required to provide evidence that they are using them (turning in ID's)
BUDGET/FISCAL IMPACT:
ATTACHMENTS: Email correspondence from St. Cloud, Waite Park and Sartell,
email correspondence from AI Erickson (State of Minnesota).
REQUE5TED COUNCIL ACTION: The Council agreed at the October 16, 2008 meeting to make a
decision at the meeting on November 6, 2008.
Judy Weyrens
From: Michael Williams [Michael.Williams@ci.stcloud.mn.us]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:30 PM
To: Judy Weyrens
Subject: Re: 2 AM Bar closing
Judy:
1. We do not charge an additional fee for the 2:00 closing license.
2. The City has "authorized" the 2:00 closing, but has not established any criteria for
approval or denial of this license. The license itself is issued by the State of MN and is
included as part of the renewal process for the on-sale license each year.
3. Many of our licenses are based on square footage of the establishment. Please see the
entire listing of our license fees on our web site at:
htta://www.ci.stcloud.mn.us/Leeal/Code/2007/511 pdf
(We will be proposing an increase in these fees for the 2009-10 licensing period.)
4. Initially there was Council discussion about only authorizing 2:00 closing on certain
days of the week. So - while it was "considered" it was eventually authorized for 7 days a
week.
5. For specifics, this is a question best answered by the Police Chief - but we have not
seen an increase in liquor related incidents attributed to the 2:00 AM closing. The Council
has asked that question in the past and the answer has been consistently that we have not
seen a change in incidents, just a change in the time of the bar closing "rush". We have
chosen not to charge an additional fee as there has not been a significant impact on law
enforcement. We did make a few changes to schedules of police officers and some procedural
changes to meet the new time of that demand on resources, but it really was a shift in the
time, not an increase.
If you need anything else let me know.
Michael Williams
City Administrator
michael.williams~aci.stcloud.mn.us
http://ci.stcloud.mn.us
»> "Judy Weyrens" <jweyrens(alcityofstioseph.com> 10/22/2008 »>
Good Morning - As you may be aware, St. Joseph does not have the 2 AM bar closing and we are
in the process of consideration. I have a couple of questions.
1. Do you charge a separate license fee for establishments that
utilize the 2 AM bar closing? If so what is the additional fee.
2. Do you have to qualify each year for the 2 AM, do liquor
violations limit the ability for an establishment to be open until 2 AM?
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3. What is your current license fee for Intoxicating On Sale, Off
Sale, Club License, Non Intoxicating License?
4. Did you consider limiting the days that an establishment can be
open until 2 AM, such as only on Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Holidays?
5. Have you had any problems with the 2 AM Closing.
Thanks
Judy Weyrens
Administrator
City of St. Joseph
PO Box 668
St. Joseph MN 56374
(320) 363-7201
(320) 363-0342 (Fax)
jweyrens~cityofstioseph.com <mailto:iweyrens~cityofstioseph.com>
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Judy Weyrens
From: Jim Hughes [jim@sartellmn.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:22 PM
To: Judy Weyrens
Subject: RE: 2 AM Bar closing
Judy,
I'll answer those questions in the order listed below. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me.
1. No, there is no additional fee. It is in combination with the base license.
2. As with any liquor license renewal, it has to be approved by council. We
do a criminal/DL/credit background check of each license holder upon their
initial application and a criminal/DL check each year they renew. Liquor
violations affect the license itself, so the council potentially could limit the
tam ability of the license holder, although that isn't outlined in our
ordinance at this time.
3. On sale: $3,000.00; Off sale: $150.00; club license: up to 200 members is
$300.00 and goes up to $3,000.00 for over 6,000 members.
Non intoxicating license: on sale $250.00; off sale: $65.00.
4. The council had discussed limiting days the tam would occur, but decided
they didn't want to limit the businesses ability to profit from it.
5. We haven't had any issues with the tam closing, and we've found that those
that do thave the tam closing often times close at 1 am anyway. Weekends
are normally the exception. The first year that they received their tam
licenses, we made them particiularly aware of the daylight savings time issue
when the clocks move ahead from 1 a to 2a.
On a side note, we don't necessarily have the college crowd at our bars as you do, and the foot traffic to and
from that you experience in your downtown. I can see where a tam closing may not make your residents along
the walking routes home very happy.
Jim Hughes
Chief of Police
Bartell Police Department
310 2nd St. S; PO Box 334
Bartell, MN 56377
Phone:320-251-8186
Fax: 320-258-3760
E-Mail: jim(a~sartellmn.com
City Website: www.sartellmn.com
Police Department Website: http://www.sartellmn.com/police/departments police.htm
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From: Patti Gartland
Sent: Wed 10/22/2008 12:02 PM
To: Jim Hughes
Subject: FW: 2 AM Bar closing
Could you please respond to Judy's questions. Thanks.
From: Judy Weyrens [mailto:jweyrens@cityofstjoseph.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:53 AM
To: Patti Gartland; Michael Williams; Shaunna Johnson; Ross Olson
Subject: 2 AM Bar closing
Good Morning - As you may be aware, St. Joseph does not have the 2 AM bar closing and we are in the process of
consideration. I have a couple of questions.
1. Do you charge a separate license fee for establishments that utilize the 2 AM bar closing? If so what is the
additional fee.
2. Do you have to qualify each year for the 2 AM, do liquor violations limit the ability for an establishment to
be open until 2 AM?
3. What is your current license fee for Intoxicating On Sale, Off Sale, Club License, Non Intoxicating License?
4. Did you consider limiting the days that an establishment can be open until 2 AM, such as only on Thursday,
Friday, Saturday or Holidays?
5. Have you had any problems with the 2 AM Closing.
Thanks
Judy Weyrens
Administrator
City of St. Joseph
PO Box 668
St. Joseph MN 56374
(320)363-7201
(320) 363-0342 (Fax)
iweyrensCa~cityofstiosegh.com
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Judy Weyrens
From: Joni Specht [jspecht@waitepark.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:15 PM
To: Judy Weyrens
Subject: Fwd: 2 AM Bar closing
Attachments: Fwd: 2 AM Bar closing
Judy,
1. No, we do not charge an additional fee for the 2 a.m.
2. No, we do not qualify each year. I call the PD and ask if there have been any problems with the 2 a.m. closing at
the particular establishment. If not Shaunna signs off. Have not ran into any problems since we started. I suppose if
the PD tells me tells me there have been issues I would bring to Shaunna and she would have to decide if council should
act.
3. On Sale Liq. is $2800 (we do pro-rate for new licenses), Off Sale Liq $100.00, Club $100.00, Off Sale 3.2 $50.00, On
Sale 3.2 $100, Wine $200.00 -establishment with wine can have strong beer at no extra fee, Sunday Sale $200.00
4. No, we did not consider limiting the days open for 2 a.m.
5. No problems. State sends the renewal directly to the establishment. They bring in to me for Shaunna sign and
either I or they mail in. State issues license then returns to me. I photocopy for 1:Iles and mail to establishment.
If you have any more qustions ]udy just let me know!
Joni Specht
Payroll/HR
320-252-6822/320-252-6955 Fax
Judy Weyrens
From: Mary Generous
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:45 AM
To: Judy Weyrens
Subject: City of St. Joseph Liquor Information
From: Erickson, AI [mailto:Al.Erickson@state.mn.us]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:30 AM
To: Mary Generous
Subject: RE: City of St. Joseph
1. There are currently 972 tam permits issued
2. I have seen some revert back but very few
3. increased enforcement costs for the extra hour of liquor sales
AI Erickson
MN Department of Public Safety
Alcohol 8 Gambling Enforcement
651-201-7510
651-297-5259 -Fax
al.erickson cr.state.mn.us
www.dgs.state.mn.us
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Generous [mailto:mgenerous@cityofstjoseph.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:19 AM
To: Erickson, AI
Subject: City of St. Joseph
Good Morning:
The City Council for the City of St. Joseph is considering extending bar closings until 2 AM. In an effort to help
them consider the matter, we are interested in the following information:
1) How many licenses in the State of MN currently allow the sale of alcohol until 2 AM?
2) Once granted this extension, do businesses often retain those hours of operation - or do you
routinely see a reduction back to the 1 AM closing?
3) Are there additional factors that you would deem important in considering a potential 2 AM closing
time?
Your cooperation is greatly appreciated!
Thank you!
~~~~ J~natouD-
Mary Generous
City of St. Joseph
320.363.7201
meenerousCa~cityofstioseph.com
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