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Home My WebLink About1999 [11] Nov 01 . CITY OF ST. JOSEPH 21 First Avenue NW P.O. Box 668, St. Joseph, MN 56374 (320) 363-720 I Fax: 363-0342 St. Joseph Planning Commission City Hall - November 1,1999 . 7:00 p.m. MAYOR Kenneth J. Hiemenz Call to Order NEW BUSINESS: CU:RKI A)~IINISTlUT<)R 7:00 P.M. Public Hearing - First State Bank of St. Joseph - Variance Request to the Cari Sdllnidt Sign Ordinance OLD BUSINESS: COUNCILORS Bob Loso 7:30 P.M St. Joseph's Farmers Market New Location - Angeline Dufuer .hlert _ J.wit 8:00 P.M Continue Discussion of Alternative Corridors for Northland Addition Mary Niedenfuer - Presentation of City Engineer's design proposals - Northland Plat - Memo from Judy Weyrens, City Deputy Clerk - Other Issues 8:45 P.M. Presentation of the revised City Ordinances 8:50 P.M. Commissioner Announcements Approval of Minutes - October 4, 1999 Adjourn . · CITY OF ST. JOSEPH .1 First Avenue NW '.0. Box 668. :t. Joseph, MN 5637MEMORANDUM 320) 363-720 I 'ax: 363-0342 To: Planning Commission Members ft From: Chad A. Carlson, Planning Commission Secretary Date: 10/28/99 ifAYOR RE: Background Information for the November 1st Planning Commission Meeting .enneth J. Hiemenz The First State Bank ofSt. Joseph is requesting a Variance to the City's Sign Ordinance. As you :u;RKI recall, the new bank facility will have office space available for rent by other businesses. ()~IINISTR,\T<)R According to the Ordinance, the Bank and each business can have one sign attached to the ari Schmidt building, not to exceed 50 square feet per sign. In addition, the facility can have one detached sign not to exceed 50 square feet identifying one or all of the business located in the building. First State Bank of St. Joseph is requesting an 83.8 square foot Variance to the detached sign. OUNCILORS Please find enclosed in your packet a copy of the schematic drawing of the proposed sign. Mr. ob Loso Reinhart and Bruce Gohman will be attending the meeting to address any questions. - J~lert Angeline Dufner is requesting to meet with the Planning Commission regarding the proposed n' '. WIt ary Niedenfuer new location of the Farmer's Market. As you recall, the Farmer's Market site was determined this summer on the City lot south of the Fire Hall. The steering committee has determined that the site does not meet their needs and now are proposing a site in Milestream Park. The Park Board must have input regarding the proposed location. Essentially, the Farmer's Market is a business proposing to be located in an area zoned as Public (i.e. park land) and a Special Use Permit should be required. Since they need CSAH #75 frontage, an alternative location could be the lot east of the new bank site, which is zoned HWY #75 Business. The agenda also includes the continued discussion ofthe Northland Addition road corridor analysis. Included in your packet is a summary of the alternative road corridors proposed by the Planning Commission and prepared by Joe Bettendorf, City Engineer. In addition, Judy Weyrens has determined that a plat of the entire Northland Addition doesn't exist. Please refer to the memo provided by Judy. Finally, the new Ordinance book is done and will be handed out at the meeting. If you have any questions, please contact me as soon as possible. Thank you. · ~ CITY OF ST. JOSEPH ~l First Avenue NW '.0. Box 668, ;t. Joseph, MN 56374 CITY OF ST. JOSEPH 320) 363-720 I PUBLIC HEARING ~ax: 363-0342 Ilk The Planning Commission for the City of St. Joseph shaH conduct a pubIíc hearing on ~ Monday, November 1, 1999 at 7:00 P.M. in the St. Joseph City Hall. The purpose of the ilAYOR meeting is to consider a Business Sign Variance for First State Bank ofSt. Joseph. First <enneth J. Hiemenz State Bank of St. Joseph is requesting: A 83.8 square foot Variance to the maximum square footage alIowable for :':u:RKI business signs as stated in St. Joseph Code of Ordinances 52.14 Subd. 12 (c). "'1J~IIi'òIS1R\TI)R -:ari Schmidt Th property is legalIy described as: :OUNCILORS All that part of Lot One (1), Block Two (2) of Roske Addition~ lying Eastery of ~ T oso the following described line: Beginning at the Southwest corner of Lot 1, Block ~hlert 2, Roske Additîon; thence North 89029' 58" East 421.64 feet to the point of -- beginning ofthe line to be described; thence North 000 04' 23" East to the North (en Twit vIary Niedenfuer line of Lot 1, Block 2, Roske Addition and said line there terminating, according to the plat and survey thereof, now on file and of record in the office of Stearns County Recorder. The requests for Variance has been submitted by the W. Gohman Construction, 30618 County Road #133, St. Joseph, MN 56374. C;¿~~ Cad Schmidt Clerk! 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Subj: agenda item for Nov. 4 Council meeting Date: 99-10-2814:23:39 EDT From: ADufner@CSBSJU.EDU (Dufner, Angeline) To: caristjoe@aol.com ('caristjoe@aol.com') CC: ADufner@CSBSJU.EDU (Dufner, Angeline) Please enter the following item on the agenda for the St. Joseph City Council meeting: The steering committee for the St. Joseph farmers' market of2000 asks to change, the marketing site on 4th A venue that the St. Joseph City Council granted in July 1999. Our reason is that producers for the market do not believe that the 4th A venue site is visible enough from Highway 75 to provide for the easy viewing that seems essential to launch the market effectively next year. We therefore ask to be part of the agenda for the November 4th Council meeting to request a tTansfer to a different site--likely MillstTeam Park. The location and weekly day of the market must be resolved before the November meeting that the steering committee will hold with producers. The steering committee will have determined its proposed site and day by the time of the Council meeting. Angeline Dufner Member of the Steering Committee <IXMP> . ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Retum- Path: <ADufner@CSBSJU.EDU> Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-zaO l.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-zaO 1.mail.aol.com (v62.1 0) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:23:39 -0400 Received: from potemkin.computing.csbsju.edu (potemkin.computing.csbsju.edu [152.65.184.13]) by rly- za01.mx.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:01:47 -0400 Received: by potemkin.computing.csbsju.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <VFP3GBAR>; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:01:32 -0500 Message- ill: <28A4 EF27CE6CD 11197 46006097DB93D905CC284C@potemkin.computing.csbsju.edu> From: "Dufner, Angeline" <ADufner@CSBSJU.EDU> To: "'caristjoe@aol.com'" <caristjoe@aol.com> Cc: "Dufner, Angeline" <ADufner@CSBSJU.EDU> Subject: agenda item for Nov. 4 Council meeting Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:01:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) ..,- Content-Type: text/plain . . . . 0 . ··t,';~ff,tVg'~~~;~::,1i'1H\;;f:~;lz~~:1Itl!I~~Ii1lt''I!lf'gt'~,'r~I~Î~.. 1Y' CITY OF ST. JOSEPH .1 First Avenue NW '.0. Box 668. :to Joseph, MN :56374 City Offices 320) 363-7201 <ax: 363-0342 Ilk Memo vlAYOR {enneth J. Hiemenz To: Planning COmmiSsi~ :':U;RK! JUdYW~ ~I>MINISTRXn)1t From: :::ari Schmidt Date: 10/28/99 < . Re: Northland Develo ment :OUNCILORS 30b Loso =-.lert At the October 4, 1999 Planning Commission meeting considerable discussion took place Ke .wit lv1ary Niedenfuer regarding the development of Northland. As I stated at the meeting I was in the process of securing a map of the entire addition with all the phases included. In researching the matter I was able to put together the history of how the development occurred. The maps and verbiage to follow should help clarify the development. I will be attending the Planning Commission meeting on November 1, 1999 should you have any questions. Attachment "A": This attachment is the original map presented by Teny Schmid for the Development of Northland. After review by the City Engineer it was determined that the proposed blocks were too long and an east/west road was required in the middle of the proposed lots. (lllustrated in Orange). Phase one and two were developed using this map. For your convenience I have highlighted each phase. After phase two was developed, Terry approached the Council with a new preliminary plat. The property known as "Indian Hill" was unavailable for parkland and Pete Rothfork was willing to donate 2.66 acres ofland in another section of Northland. Therefore, Teny Schmid approached the Council and Planning Commission and the City agreed to a new parkland area. The parkland area donated would fulfill the parkland dedication area for Northland ill, IV and V. Therefore, Teny redesigned the plat, a preliminary plat was held in 1994 and approved by the Planning Commission. Attachment "B" is the revised plat that was approved by both the Planning Commission and City Council. At this time Teny Schmid is following the preliminary plat approved by both bodies. . . Page 1 .' The two attachments provided are the only maps that are part of the Northland Development. Because of the re- . platting in 1994 the entire development is not placed on one map, other than the City map prepared by Joe Bettendorf. Since the Planning Commission may not have a ClllTent City map I have included one for your review. Please note that since Northland N has not yet been filed, it is not on the City map. Miscellaneous Matters Review of Plats: Some discussion has arisen regarding the procedure for reviewing plats. In researching the past Planning Commission minutes, I have discovered that the Planning Commission in the past has reviewed Phase One, Two and Three of Northland as well as the phases in Pond View Ridge (Final). Once the Planning Commission reviewed the Final Plat the recommendation was forwarded to the City Council for review and comment. For some reason Northland N did not make it to the Planning Commission for review and comment. This phase come late in the season \vith the City installing the improvements. The Council even had difficulty in receiving the plat. As the Ordinance requires that the plats are reviewed by the Planning Commission we will continue to forward them to you in the future. . . . Page 2 .. ....- _..___~ll ¡ ,- , , ,-. --... -- Ü :: . .. ~ : ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ":",,-.- ~ ~ c::t = I- )... 0 -~ l- t/) ~ Q:; IJJ ~ ~ c;: IJJ ~ qJ -.e, Cl 0 ~ t Q:; '" .. ~ Cl :i ~ 't.. 4 -.;:, . ~ Cl ':;::S Q:; l1J '-± j 0 t/) "t '-;-0, LI.. 0 ::t: "") I- 0 I- ~ t) Q:; t/) ~ ~ ~ . Q lJ... . ~ ':::. ...J 0 " .... '"\j 0 ~ f '"1:t Q:; )... .. \D C c::t I- ~ ~ \:5 :t: U ~ - -S: ~ . ~ .., . Jt ~ - · >- >- . ~ ~ ~ 0 ~ ~ !:: ~ ~ ~ ~ '0 ~ ~ ~ v · · -.J :::2: -:< ~ . " .. ~ : ~ n -B - ~ . . n · · ::z. .... .. · { 0 ~ .. . '" . ~ ~ ~ ~ !:: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ · N .. !! : ~ .. 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I can finalize one or more of these options if necessary, and/or look at any other alternates the Planning Commission might want to consider. Option 1 Extend 4th A venue south and then curving east to meet NortWand Drive. This alternate appears to work fairly well. Street grades are at or below 7 percent, the design allows for residential development of the Rothfork parcel, and it appears the road would bisect the Brandenberger parcel at a point where there would be useable commercial property on both sides of the route. Option 2 Construct a road south of and adjacent to the existing Northland development. This option presents a number of problems. It creates a jog at 4th A venue that is less than the required 125 feet, and leaves an intersection that would be difficult to control. Even if you curve the road into 4th A venue to minimize the jog, it is still a poor intersection. This option also creates double frontage lots in NortWand Plat Four, and does little to help the Brandenburger parcel; I don't see assessable benefit to property on either side of the route. Finally, we have a very steep grade on the west end of the street; even with a cut at the top of the hill, the grade will reach 10 percent or more--our Subdivision Ordinance sets the grade limit at 8 percent. AI/ Alfìrmatil'e Actiol/. Equal OpportuI/ity Employer Option 3 . Loop a road into Northland Plat Four, intersecting with the curve at the top of the hill. Most of the shortcomings of Option 2 are also apparent here. In addition, it would be difficult to get the 200 foot centerline radius required by ordinance. Of the three options considered, I believe this route would be the least likely to meet your objective of taking traffic off of Gumtree Street. In summary, I believe Option 1 provides the best alternative for reducing traffic on Gumtree Street. Let me know if you need any other information, or if you want me to pursue this further. djg Enclosures c: Cai"i Schmidt, City of St. Joseph (w/enclosure) Judy Weyrens, City ofSt. Joseph (w/enclosure) W:\stjoe\9905Icorrloc27a-99-M,wpd ......... -- All Affirmatil'e Action, Equal Opportunity Employer - - - ~ - I . .... ~~, ~. . .} r r' ~ ~ ... f ... ---<; ~ 01 --- iF": - - - ~""..l ---~-- - I . ~ " ...... ...... ...... , ' ...... ...... ...... ~ 7~ " " ~ " r " I " 1 \ \ \ \ ~ \ \ ~ \ \ . ~. : ~11Ú' ~ - ~ " cO Þ Q..¡ Cll:iJ ('1 -41) 11 .. ..¡ - . Oò'~¡1~~}"~ r . - l. ~ ~ ,.or ,.-l1f ~ ~ ~ ...-1 ~ Þ -4 ë: 0, (if I I! t';f ~~!,.. ~~ r ,,' ~. II .1' .. ., t (\-1 f:l \) ~ ~ I ~ I ~ 1 "'II '- ,~ I ·--..--- , ~f . .... ~~. ", r r .' '" þ ~ ~ ... l' [ -- ;:t'~y;\~... ~ "J 01 .. 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Carlson. Others Present: Jim Fredricks, Steve Paasch, Gary Schleicher, Amy Schleicher, Lori Gwost, AI Gwost, Diane Schreifels, Will Schreifels, and Judy Weyrens. Site Plan - East Apartments - Collel!e of St. Benedict: Jim Fredricks and Steve Paasch presented the proposed site plan, renov~tion and new construction plans for the East Apartments located on -the campus of the College of St. Benedict. The first phase of the project was presented W the Planning Commission and two buildings have been renovated. The proposed plan will complete phase two of the project. The old structures along College Avenue will be demolished and replaced with new construction. A three story, 220 ~ed complex will be complet~ in phase two and ~he entire project is schedulec! for cOlllpletion in the spring of200 1. Current parking spaces total 50 and an additional 21 spaces will ~ available. Paasch identified the emergency and service entrances to the facility. Fredri~ks explained that each unit will consist of two and four bedrooms, wash and dryer, and wiUbe handicap accessible. Construction material will consist of spilt-faced block, steel panel with stucco finish, hipped roof with shingles and extensive landscaping. . Lesnick questioned if the height of the 'building would 'be similar to the' Science 'Building.Passch stated that the complex will be 32 feet high. Greave questioned if a bastmlent would be constructed. Paasch stated that a crawl space and mechanical area win be constructed. A basement under the entire structure will not be constructed. Kalinowski stated that the current emergency entrance is not a road. Paasch stated that emergency vehicles could continue to enter in this area and the wide walking path on the north side of the facility. Klein stated that in the spring large emergency vehicles could sink and get stuck in this area. Klein suggested that the City's Fire Chiefbe contacted to discuss emergency routes. Paasch stated that he has reviewed the project with Ron Euteneuer and Dave Theisen prior to the meeting and there were no concerns. Paasch stated that a fire hydrant needs to placed on the north end of the complex and two other locations for safety. Ehlert questioned the demolition of one buîldìng and not the other. Is the demolition due the age-and useful life of the structure? Paasch stated that the building is structurally sound but no longer meets ofthe College. Utsch questioned if the parking to student ratio is adequate and stated it does not meet the standards of the City Ordinance. Paasch stated that 21 additional parking spaces will be created. for a total of 71 parking spaces for the complex. Ehlert confirmed that if the final phase is completed, the parking lot on the north end of the complex would be lost. Ehlert stated that the proposed entrance to the facility is on College Avem1elCR #121 and questioned if the County . Highway Engineer has been contacted. Paasch stated that the existing entrance will be used and the project meets the City's 30-foot setback. Paasch stated the County is not concerned with Ú1e project and doesn't foresee any impacts to CR #121. October 4, 1999 Minutes · Lesnick moved to approved the site plan for the East Apartments presented by the College of St Benedict as presented subject to review and approval from the City Building Inspector and City Fire Chief; Seconded by Ehlert. The motion passed with the following vote: Ayes: Klein, Lesnick, Kalinowski, Schneider, Utsch, Greave, and Ehlert Nays: None Motion Carried Arts and Herita!!e Center - Parkin!! Plan Update: Carlson presented a finding by the City Building Official determining that the Arts and Heritage Center must have a parking plan incorporated into the project and submitted to the City prior to receiving a Certificate of Occupancy. Carlson stated that the Ordinance is being interpreted differently by the Building Official and city staff. City staff interpretation is that the City cannot require the parking plan as a prerequisite for obtaining a Certificate of Occupancy. Ehlert questioned why the Ordinance is in conflict. The Planning Commission has always determined that the EE District is not subject to the provisions of the Ordinance. The request for a parking plan was out of courtesy only. Weyrens stated that staff at Great Northern Building Inspection has determined that a parking plan is a requirement and must be provided to the City. Weyrens stated that in the future, the Planning Commission should require a report :/Ì'om the Building Official prior to reviewing any development in the EE District. If any interpretation differences occur, they can be addressed by city staff prior the Planning Commission meeting. Klein stated that the Planning Commission has determined that development in the EE District is not subject to the provisions of the Ordinances, except for the review of the site plan. The Building Official needs to understand and acknowledge the Planning Commission's position in the EE District. · Utsch disagreed and stated that the College ofSt. Benedict and the Monastery are part of the community. The City Council and Planning Commission have an obligation and responsibility to review and approve development in the EE District subject to all the provisions set forth in the Ordinance. Kalinowski stated that Dave Theisen, Fire Chief: is the only person that needs to know where parking will be located for emergency purposes. The gift shop is extremely small and will not generate a huge amount of traffic. The circle drive and alley on the Monastery's campus will be sufficient for the Center's parking needs. Ehlert questioned why the Monastery is not submitting a parking plan when they said they would a month ago. Kalinowski stated that the Monastery is completing an overall parking plan for the campus and the Arts and Heritage Center project is only a small portion of the overall plan. Ehlert stated his concern with patrons of the Arts and Heritage Center using Minnesota Street were the City has already identified a parking problem. Carlson stated that the Planning Commission needs to make a determination whether or not a parking plan would be required to obtain a Certificate of Occupancy. Lesnick suggested that the Planning Commission determine that a parking plan will not be required for the Arts and Heritage Center project based on the fact the Planning Commission has never required parking plan for past projects in the EE District. Ehlert stated that he agrees with Utsch and that the City has a responsibility to put the best interest of the community fIrst. The Ordinances need to be enforced uniformly throughout the community. Ehlert further stated it is his opinion that the request for a parking plan :/Ì'om the Monastery has been blown way out of proportion. · Kalinowski stated again that an overall parking plan would be completed for the campus in the future and will be available at that time. October 4, 1999 Minutes . Ehlert made a motion to direct the Building Official to issue a Certificate of Occupancy for tbe Arts and Heritage Center once construction is complete and without a parking plan for the facility; Seconded by Greave. The motion passed with the following vote: Ayes: Klein, Lesnick, Kalinowski, Schneider, Vtsch, Greave, and Ehlert Nays: None Motion Carried Northland Addition - Road Corridor Discussion: Carlson infonned the Planning Commission thäf the Area Planning Organization (APO) would be willing to assist the City in determining the feasibility of alternative road corridors adjacent to the Northland Addition. The City Engineer will be contacting Carlson to discuss engineering and future development issues for an overall assessment of the Northland Addition. Carlson stated that the preliminary plat of the Northland Addition included the connection of Gruntree Street to a future north/south road, connecting to CSAH #75. According to the City Engineer. Gruntree Street was designed to connect to the north/south road to effectively move traffic out of the Northland Addition. Northland Drive will provide another access that is badly needed to the Northland Addition. Residents living on Gruntree Street are requesting that the Planning Commission discuss an alternative east/west corridor. Klein questioned if the City Offices could provide the Planning Commission members with a copy of plat for the entire Northland development. Klein further stated that the City Council and developer changed the Northland Plat without consulting with the Planning Commission. The names of streets and the location of the park changed after the Plannin~ Commission approved the preliminary plat. Weyrens stated that a copy of the Northland Addition Plat would be presented to the Planning Commission on November 1st, including the latest addition. Weyrens stated that many months of the discussion took place with the . City Council and the developer regarding the location of the park. The final plat reflects the new location of the park as it currently exists arid the street names were changed to correspond with the City's grid system. Ehlert stated that all plats associated with the Northland Addition have been approved and have not been changed after fmal approval by the City Council. ~~l1n~iger stated that a decision has been made to connect Gmntree Street to Northland Drive and little can be done now to change the design. Schneider further stated that the residents are requesting that the Planning Commission research the feasibility of another east/west road connecting to Northland Drive to relieve the traffic pressure that will occur on Gumtree Street. Lesnick stated that the original development plans of the Northland Addition included the extension of Gruntree Street to the east and connecting with County Road #133. Ehlert explained that connecting Gmntree Street to County Road #133 was discussed and eliminated due to environmental issues and development restraints. Ehlert stated that the City Council discussed the potential traffic impact to residents living Gmntree Street by connecting it to Northland Drive. The City Council is requesting that the Planning Commission review alternate road corridors. Ehlert stated in his opinion the push for the construction of Northland Drive is coming :/Ì'om the residents on Old County Road #2 and the City's Fire Chief. Gary Schleicher, Northland resident, stated that the City is taking a traffic problem on west side of the Northland Addition and moving it to the east side. Ehlert suggested that the Planning Commission study options of extending Fir Street or 4th Aven~ through the Rothfork and Brandenburger properties, to connect with Northland Drive. Utsch suggested that before he or the Planning Commission can make an educated decision on alternative road corridors. they need to review a copy ofthe current plat Weyrens stated that Northland plat would be available by November 1st. . Ehlert stated that the City Council discussed the option of extending Fir Street for over 40 minutes. The City Engineer indicated that the extension of Fir Street is not feasible due to grade and soil conditions. October 4, 1999 Minutes . Gary Schleicher stated that 5th Avenue has a similar grade and 5th Avenue is being constructed. Gary Schleicher further stated that he doesn't agree with the City Engineer's assessment and the City Council did not allow the public to speak or con:/Ì'ont the City Engineer. Amy Schleicher, Northland resident, stated that City Council made the decision to construct Northland Drive in the best interest of the developer and not the community or the Northland neighborhood. Klein stated that Avon Lumber One did not construct the development as presented to the Planning Commission. A road north of the development connecting to County Road #2 and multi-unit structures were included in the original plan and neither has been constructed. Gary Schleicher stated that he bought his house in 1996 and according to plat, 4th Avenue was going to carry the traffic south out of the addition. The plat must have been changed since he purchased his home and Northland Drive was added to the development. Lesnick stated that a road corridor is identified north of the City to parallel CSAH #75. Carlson stated that the APO 2020 plan does indicate a road corridor north of the community connecting County Road #2 with County Road # 134 at Fingerhut. Ehlert presented possible 4th Avenue and Fir Street extension alternatives and stated that the Planning Commission and City Council have made a commitment to research corridor alternatives for the Northland Addition. Gary Schleicher stated he appreciates the efforts of the Planning Commission and City Council and suggested that they curtail and scrutinize any further development in the Northland Addition until this issue is resolved. Greave stated that the Planning Commission should preserve possible road corridors as development occurs. Greave . suggested that the City purchase easement and right-of-way to avoid similar situations in the future. Carlson presented a memorandum :/Ì'om the APO detailing the steps to preserve road corridors for future development. The memorandum states that an official map needs to be created in order to protect the corridors. Carlson further stated that an official map adopted by the City could preserve corridors but there is a potential financial liability to the City over a period of time. The City Council must be involved in the process of preserving road corridors. Utsch suggested that the City needs to contact the Rothfork and Brandenburger families to present the possible road alternatives discussed by the Planning Commission. Utsch further stated that if the City constructed the roads, the City could assess the property owners for the project. Weyrens stated that the City Council can not assess property unless a benefit is shown as a result of the project. Gary Schleicher questioned why Fir Street wasn't extended to the east as presented in the original plan of the development. ScWeicher referred to an original schematic drawing of the development. Klein added that the original plat presented to the Planning Commission was changed by Avon Lumber One and the Rothforks, approved by the City Council, and never re-presented to the Planning Commission. Ehlert stated that the City Council was pushed to construct Northland Drive to Gumtree Street and there wasn't enough time to plan or discuss alternatives prior to the project. Ehlert further stated that the industrial park project and Northland Drive were included in the same bonding package and the City Council could not delay the bond Issue. Gary Schleicher stated it is his opinion that the City Council didn't research alternatives to Northland Drive and put the interests of the developer ahead of the community. Utsch made a motion to have Carlson work with the City Engineer to study the proposed extensions. of Fir . Street and 4th Avenue as presented and have Carlson contact the Rothfork and Brandenburger pro~ owners to discuss the proposed alternatives; Seconded by Ehlert October 4, 1999 Minutes (tf ..... · Discussion: Carlson stated that he has been in contact with the Brandenburger family regarding the development of their property on a separate issue. Carlson has been infonned that the property is in estate qanddevelopment will not likely occur in the near future. The motion passed with the following vote: Ayes; Klein, Lesnick,. Kalinowski, Schneider, Utsch, Greave~ and Ehlert Nays: None Motion Carried Commissioner Announcements: Klein announced a public hearing that is scheduled for Wednesday, October 6th at 7:00 p.m. in the Westwood Elementary School Gymnasium. Klein stated that the APO is planning road corridors within St. Joseph Township and the City of St. Joseph. Klein further stated that the Planning Commission should review St. Joseph Township and APO transportation plans and make sure they are in the best interest of St. Joseph. Carlson explained that the public hearing is being held in conjunction with West Metro Corridor Study. The study is an attempt to identify road corridors to move traffic :/Ì'om growing areas of Sartell into S1. Cloud and to address the traffic congestion on the 8th Street bridge. Carlson further stated that the Planning Commission reviewed and accepted the Township's transportation plan earlier this summer. Utsch stated that he recalls a discussion of extending the Delwin Road south as a part of a north/south road corridor for the community. In his opinion, the extension of the Delwin Road is a good idea. Ehlert stated it is his opinion that Stearns County and the APO are more concerned with traffic flow then the impacts to the residents and neighborhoods. Neighborhoods and residents are not involved in the transportation planning · process. Carlson announced that the new Zoning Ordinances are being completed and will be presented at the November 1 sl meeting. Approve Minutes: Lesnick moved to approve the September 7, 1999 minutes as presented; Seconded by Utsch. The motion passed with the following vote: Ayes: Klein, Lesnick, Kalinowski, Schneider, Utsch, Greavt; and Ehlert Nays: None Motion Carried Adjourn: Lesnick made a motion to adjourn at 9:05 p.m.; seconded by Schneider and passed unanimously. ~~ Planning Commission Secretary · October 4, 1999 Minutes Extract of the April 6, 1998 Planning Commission Meeting Re: Pond View Five . Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the Planning Commission for the City of St. Joseph met in regular session on Monday, April 6, 1998 at 7:00 p.m. in the St. Joseph City Hall. Members Present: Chair Hub Klein. Commissioners Marge Lesnick, Kurt Schneider, Jim Graeve. Council Liaison Cory Ehlert. Deputy Clerk Judy Weyrens. Others Present: Fred Reber, Jane Reber, Kevin Schirmers, Irvin Klocker, Rick Heid, Gary Heltemes, Melvin Ruegemer, Aurelia Ruegemer, Dan Pueringer, Bob Wahlstrom, Ellen Wahlstrom, Ron Kostreba, Margie Kalla, AI Kalla, Brian Orcutt, Ben Poepping, Bob Herges. Preliminary Plat - Pond View 5. Rick Heid and Bob Herges: Chair Klein opened the hearing at 7:05 p.m. and stated the purpose of the hearing is to consider a preliminary plat for Pond View Ridge Five. The proposed subdivision contains 39 single family dwelling lots on approximately 17 acres. The property is legally described as follows: Part of the West Half (W Y:.) of Section Eleven (11), Township One Hundred Twenty-four (124) North, Range Twenty- nine (29) West, Stearns County, Minnesota. described as follows: Commencing at the Southwest corner of Section 11, Township 124 North, Range 29 West; thence North 01 degrees 49 minutes 36 seconds East, (assumed Bearing) on the West line there of 1,500.79 feet for a point of beginning; thence continue North 01 degree 49 minutes 36 seconds East on said West line 657.49 feet; thence North 87 degrees 09 minutes East a distance of 203.90 feet; thence North 02 degrees 51 minutes West 264.0 feet to the centerline of Old State Highway Number 52; thence North 87 degrees 09 minutes East on said centerline 66.0 feet; thence South 02 degrees 51 minutes East a distance of 205.0 feet to a point on the South boundary line of Moh's Addition extended; thence North 87 degrees 09 minutes East on the South boundary line of said addition and said boundary line extended a distance of 697.0 feet; thence North 02 degrees 51 minutes West a distance of 125.74 feet - to a point on the Southwesterly right-of-way line of the proposed State Trunk Highway Number 52; thence Southeasterly on said right-of-way which is a curve to the right, for a distance of 353.2 feet to the West right-of-way -- line of a public road; thence South 01 degrees 08 minutes West on said right-of-way line to the aforementioned South boundary line of Moh's Addition extended; thence South 87 degrees 09 minutes West on said extended South boundary line 176.14 feet; thence South 01 degrees 08 minutes West a distance of 304.41 feet; thence East 208.72 feet to the centerline of said public road; thence South 01 degrees 08 minutes West on said centerline 66.0 feet; thence West 208.72 feet; thence South 01 degrees 08 minutes West a distance of 401.34 feet to a line drawn due East and West through the point of beginning; thence West on said line 1,118.08 feet to said point of beginning; subject to a road right-of-way over the most Northerly 33 feet and the most Easterly 33 feet thereof. Part of the Northwest Quarter of the Southwest Quarter (NW % SW %) of Section 11, Township 124 North, Range 29 West, Stearns County, Minnesota, described as follows: Commencing at the Southeasterly corner of Moh's Addition according to the plat thereof which is on file and of record in the Office of the Register of Deeds in and for Stearns County; thence North 87 degrees 09 minutes East (assumed bearing) along the Southerly boundary line of said Moh's Addition extended, a distance of 100.00 feet; thence North 02 degrees 51 minutes West a distance of 125.74 feet to a point on the Southwesterly right-of-way line of proposed State Trunk Highway Number 52 for a point of beginning; thence continue North 02 degrees 51 minutes West a distance of 79.26 feet to the centerline of Old State Highway Number 52; thence North 87 degrees 09 minutes East on said centerline a distance of 373.30 feet to its intersection with the centerline of a public road; thence South 01 degrees 08 minutes West along said centerline a distance of 205.50 feet; thence South 87 degrees 09 minutes West a distance of 33.08 feet to the West right-of-way line of said public road; thence North 01 degrees 08 minutes East on said right-of-way line a distance 8.94 feet to said Southwesterly right-of-way line of proposed State Highway Number 52; thence Northwesterly on said right-of- way line, which is a curve to the left for a distance of 353.20 feet to the point of beginning. Subject to road right-of- way over most Northerly 33 feet and most Easterly 33 feet thereof. References in the foregoing description to proposed State Trunk Highway Number 52 are understood to mean the proposed route of Interstate Highway 1-94 and Trunk Highway Number 52 as proposed prior to 1970, and since abandoned no proceedings having been instituted for the acquisition of such right-of-way. Less and except: That part of the Northwest Quarter of the Southwest Quarter (NW % of SW %) of Section Eleven (11), Township One Hundred-four (124), Range Twenty-nine (29), Stearns County, Minnesota described as follows: Commencing at the southwest corner of said Section Eleven (11); thence North 1 degree, 49 minutes, and 36 seconds East along the west line of the Southwest Quarter (SW %) of said Section Eleven (11) for 2,158.58 feet; thence North 87 degrees April 6, 1998 Page 1 of 5 Extract of the April 6, 1998 Planning Commission Meeting Re: Pond View Five . and 9 minutes East for 203.90 feet; thence North 2 degrees and 51 minutes West for 59.38 feet tot he westerly extension of the south line of Moh's Addition according to the plat thereof on file and of record in the Office of the Register of Deeds in and for Stearns County, Minnesota; thence North 87 degrees 09 minutes and 19 seconds East along said south line of Moh's Addition and along the westerly and easterly extensions thereof for 928.78 feet to the point of beginning of the land to be described; thence North 2 degrees 50 minutes and 41 seconds West for 205.00 feet to the center line of County Road Number 134 (also known as Old Highway Number 52); thence North 87 degrees, 09 minutes and 19 seconds East along said center line for 207.16 feet to the center line of a Township Road; thence South 1 degree, 08 minutes and 23 seconds West along said center line of said Township Road for 205.50 feet to the extension of said south line of Moh's Addition; thence South 87 degrees, 09 minutes and 19 seconds West for 192.88 feet to the point of beginning. The proposed plat has been submitted by Rick Heid, 22825 Fleetwood Drive, St. Cloud MN 56301. Weyrens clarified that Heid and Herges have changed the design of the original plat presented in 1991. St. Joseph Code of Ordinances requires a public hearing if any changes are made to the original plat. Heid stated that the design of the plat has been changed to add five (5) lots. While the sketch plan presented at this hearing contains two lots which do not meet the minimum lot requirements, they will be changed before presentation to the City Council. Kevin Schirmers, 30355 - 9151 Avenue, questioned the type of housing that will be constructed in certain areas. Heid responded that Pond View Five (5) will be a mix of patio homes and traditional homes. The patio homes are intended to provide a buffer on 1 ih Avenue SE. All the homes constructed in phase five will meet the covenant requirements of a minimum floor area of 1100 square feet. Gary Heltemes, 30309 - 90th Avenue questioned at what point street lights are installed in new developments. Heid responded that street lights are the responsibility of the City. . Jane Reber, 1314 East Minnesota Street, stated that along the northern edge of the proposed plat is a twenty foot easement that adjoining property owners have been using to access the rear of their properties. Reber questioned who owns and maintains this easement and if the adjoining property owners will be allowed access to such. Heid responded that ten feet of the easement belongs to property he owns and the remaining ten feet belong to the adjoining property owners. This easement is a recorded utility easement and does not provide for roadway. After Pond View Five is developed, the easement will be privately owned by the home owner whose lot includes the easement, just as the adjoining property owners privately own the property with the easement. Irvin Klocker, 1404 East Minnesota Street, questioned why property owners will not be allowed to continue to use the property since they have been using it for over 40 years. He questioned how a grandfather status would apply. Weyrens responded that the easement is a recorded document filed on the property owners deeds. The City used this easement to place water and sewer lines as did other utility companies. The easement area cannot be built upon or fenced over. Heid further stated that he owns the property and that easement area has been configured into the lot sizes. If the easement were excluded, some of the lots may not meet the minimum requirments. Ronald Kostreba, 1007 Able Street East, questioned the status of 1ih Avenue SE and discussion he has had with the City regarding such. Weyrens responded that the City Engineer has completed drafting the legal description and is working with the City Attorney to prepare the necessary paperwork for Kostreba to sign. Ehlert responded that the City Council has discussed and listened to public comments with regard to the extension of 12th Avenue SE. Stearns County is requiring that when County Road 133 is realigned, 12'h Avenue be extended. The County is in the process of updating the transportation plan and had indicated that 1ih Avenue SE is needed to help move traffic out of Pond View Ridge and there is a need to move traffic to County Road 75 quicker. Further, when County Road 133 is realigned, the existing crossing used by Scherer Trucking will need to be relocated and 1ih Avenue SE is a logical choice. Ehlert also discussed the ramifications if the City does not abide by County regulations. When East Minnesota Street was reconstructed a large portion of the funding came from Stearns County because MN Street is a County Road. MN Street was designed and built for large volumes and weights of traffic. If the April 6, 1998 Page 2 of 5 Extract of the April 6, 1998 Planning Commission Meeting Re: Pond View Five . City would restrict traffic we could be required to reimburse the County for the funds based on an amortized life (use) schedule. Ehlert further clarified that the City relies on the expertise and financial assistance of both the St. Cloud Area Partnership Organization and Stearns County. Ellen Wahlstrom stated that she attended the open house conducted by Stearns County where the County Comprehensive Plan was displayed. It is Wahlstrom's understandin~ that the Stearns County Comprehensive Plan has changed the design of the southerly extension of 12 h Avenue. Therefore, is it necessary to build 1ih Avenue as a major roadway. Herges and Heid stated that when the original plat was presented in 1991 the City required a roadway easement of 80 feet to be used for 12th Avenue SE with sidewalk on one side. Therefore, a portion of the development already has 12th Avenue built with a 80 foot right of way. It is too late to change the configuration as the road widths would vary throughout the development. Heid suggested rather than to change the road configuration, a bicycle lane be constructed adjacent to 12th Avenue SE. Kevin Schirmers, 30355 - 915t Avenue, questioned if the holding pond would be sufficient. Hied responded that the City Engineer has indicated that the holding pond will need to be doubled. To accommodate this the existing pond will be excavated south. Heid questioned the need for doubling the pond and he would like to see that downsized if possible. Ellen Wahsltrom questioned if the pond extension would be seeded with prairie grass as is the original part of the pond. Herges indicated that he would be willing to accommodate this request. Ehlert questioned Herges and Heid as to why they chose not to develop Pond View Five as a PURD as they had previously discussed with the Planning Commission. Herges responded that because the roads are already built it would have been difficult to redesign the project and a PURD development requires additional work that they did not wish to deal with. Further, they . did not feel the property owners in Pond View would be receptive to smaller lots. Brian Orcutt, 128 - 13th Avenue SE, question the size of the lots proposed in Pond View Five and if they will meet the convents of the development. Heid responded that the lots will be slightly smaller than the original plat and all the homes will meet the minimum floor requirement of 1,100 square feet. Orcutt stated that the covenants he received when he built in Pond View Two indicates the minimum floor area was 1 ,200 square feet. He further questioned how the covenants could be changed without notification to the property owners. Heid responded that the covenants where changed after the first development phase. The public present discussed concerns with the contractor building patio homes in Pond View Four. All the existing patio homes appear to be the same design. Those present encouraged the Planning Commission to prohibit the construction of patio homes of similar design on adjoining property. Herges responded that the contractor being discussed currently has three house plans and they will ask the contractor to change the front elevation on adjoining property. The Planning Commission discussed including a contingency in approving the plat that no more than two similar home designs can be contiguous. Heid stated that he would not readily agree to such a provision, as it would have a direct impact on bi-Ievel homes. He clarified that they would encourage the builders of patio homes to chan~e the front elevations. The Commission questioned if all the patio homes would be constructed along 12 h Avenue SE or if they would be mixed within the development. Heid stated that the market will dictate where and what types of homes will be built. Conceptually they feel that patio homes will be built along 12th Avenue but will allow them to built on any lot in the plat. Heid also encouraged the Planning Commission to not judge patio or town homes as they can be built as nice as any traditional home. Schneider reminded the Planning Commission that patio homes can include more than one living level and the homes currently built in Pond View are California Ramblers. Ben Poepping stated that it is his opinion that the patio homes constructed in Pond View Ridge should not have been allowed. April 6, 1998 Page 3 of 5 Extract of the April 6, 1998 Planning Commission Meeting Re: Pond View Five . Weyrens informed the Commission that the Mayor reviewed the preliminary plat and would like the developers to considering redesigning the plat to eliminate the cul-de-sac and replace it with a circle drive. The Mayor indicated that cul-de-sacs are difficult to maintain, especially with snow removal and are more costly to a City. Graeve stated that it is his opinion that cul-de-sacs provide a "quality of life" people are looking for and it should remain in the plat. Commissioners present concurred. Heid and Herges stated that people look to purchase lots along cul-de-sacs and they do not wish to remove it. Further. in removing the cul-de-sac will loose two additional lots. Wahlstrom questioned if the Public Works Director Dick Taufen had an opportunity to review the plat and if so what were his comments. Weyrens stated that Taufen noted the road labeled East Able Drive needs to be corrected to East Able Street until the bend in the road at which point it needs to be corrected to 13th Avenue SE. As far as the cul-de-sac, Taufen stated that he does not like cul-de-sacs and encourages alternatives to such. However, he also realizes that cul-de-sacs are popular areas to live on, and will work with them if left in the plat. Kevin Schirmers stated that he feels the Pond View Ridge Addition is an asset to St. Joseph and the developers should continue developing as they have been and to encourage builders to rotate house designs. Heid and Herges were questioned as to why when they are ready to develop a parcel of land the property is stripped of all the trees. Heid responded that the utility companies dictate which trees are to be removed. For development purposes, the property is more marketable with trees. . Heid stated that the hearing at this time is for preliminary plat approval only. The design work and final layouts will be completed once preliminary plat approval is granted. It is costly to prepare the design work and he and Herges do not wish to redesign the plat if the City Council does not approve the preliminary plat. The City will have a second opportunity to review the plat at the time of submitting the final plat. There being no additional public comments, Klein closed the hearing at 8:30 p.m. Ehlert made a motion to recommend the City Council approve the preliminary plat of Pond View Five and Resolution of Findings; seconded by Lesnick and passed unanimously by those present. R£SOLIJTION OF FINDINGS The request of Rick Heid and Bob Herges for a Preliminary Plat request for Pond View Ridge Five came before the Planning Commission at a public hearing held on April 6, 1998. The purpose of the hearing was to consider a preliminary plat for Pond View Ridge Five to allow for the construction of 41 homes on approximately 17 acres. The proposed subdivision is zoned R-1 Single Family. Notice of this matter was duly served and published. Approval is based on the following contingencies: 1. Review and approval of the City Engineer, to include but not limited to the following: a. Satisfaction that all lots meet the minimum square footage requirement b. The size of the drainage pond is reviewed to determined if the pond needs to be doubled. c. Current status of 1 ih Avenue and correspondence as to the best interest of the City for the construction and development of 1 ih Avenue. d. Satisfaction of the design standards as required by St. Joseph Code of Ordinances. 2. Correction of the Street names as noted by the Public Works Director. April 6, 1998 Page 4 of 5 Extract of the April 6, 1998 Planning Commission Meeting Re: Pond View Five . 3. Review by the City Attorney and an opinion if the developers agreement can contain language that would prevent patio homes of an identical design to be constructed on contiguous lots. Weyrens informed those present that if the developers met the agenda deadline of Friday, April 10, 1998 this matter will be placed on the April 16, 1998 City Council agenda. . April 6, 1998 Page 5 of 5