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City of St Joseph
City Council Meeting
5/18/00, 1:00 PM
1. Call to Order. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, the City Council for the City of St.
Joseph met on Thursday, May 18th, 2000 at 7:00 p.m. in the St. Joseph City Hall.
Members Present: Mayor Kennettt J. Hiemenz, Bob Loso, Cory Ehlert, Ken Twit, ,and Clerk-
Administrator Cari Schmid! and Deputy Clerk Judy Weyrens. Members absent: Mary
Niedenfuer
Others Present: EDA Director Chad Carlson, Public Works Director Dick Taufen, Police
Chief Gary Will, Tom Kuelbs, City Engineer Joe Bettendorf, Mike Deutz !
2. Approve Agenda - Schmidt stated that there was one change to the agenda. The Rec
Association submitted their gambling renewal form for the La Playette. Ehlert made a motion
to approve the agenda with the change, seconded by Twit. The motion passed unanimously.
3. Approve Consent Agenda
a. Gambling Renewal- Minnesota Deer Hunter's Association
b. Gambling Renewal- st. Joseph Rec Association
c. Adjustment to City Assessor's salary
Ehlert made a motion to approve the consent agenda, seconded by Twit. The motion passed
unanimously. (4:0)
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4. 1:00 Public Hearing - Noise Violation - 818 East MN Street - Hiemenz opened the public
hearing forthe noise violation that was issued on April 28, 2000 forthe property located at
818 East MN Street. Hiemenz stated that an evidentiary hearing was not requested within
seven days of the hearing. This constitutes a waiver of the right to a hearing. This waiver is
the equivalent to an admission of the basic allegations alleged in the report by the
complaining party. As this right was waived, the Council determines that a violation did occur
and will then proceed immediately to disposition. Hiemenz read the police report detailing the
events of the evening which included 74 people being cited for underage consumption, as
well as approximately 130 people at the residence. There were also eight kegs discovered at
the residence. Hiemenz stated that this property had no previous violations. Twit made a
motion to find that a noise violation did occur, seconded by Loso. This motion passed
unanimously. (4:0)
Hiemenz stated that as the right to a hearing was waived and the Council finds that a noise
vi01ation did occur, they would move directiy to disposition. Tom Kuelbs, owner of the
property requested the chance to speak. Mr. Kuelbs apologized for himself and his tenants.
He stated that he has made a concerted effort to work with his neighbors and reintroduces
himself to them often, encouraging them to call him if there is ever a problem. He stated that
during this particular incident, he was in Califomia. In the past he has responded
immediately when the neighbors have complained, and has even called the police himself on
occasion. .He assured the Council that the lease for these tenants for next year has been
voided.
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Ehlert asked Kuelbs how long he has had a rental license with the City.Mr. Kuelbs indicated
that he has had the property for six years. Ehlert clarified that this was the first incident in the
six years he has held the license. Kuelbs stated that the two students present at the meeting
are students that are on the lease for next year and were not part of this incident. They are
present out of concem that they may not have a place to live next year. Kuelbs explained
that the tenants that were involved in this incident would not be allowed to rent this property.
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The Council asked Chief Will if he would explain the fines involved wtl,h this citation. Will
stated that he didn't know exact numbers but that they were fined for disorderty house, as
well as.the violation of the keg ordinance, and whatever fine the Council imposes tonight.
Weyrens added that there is at least $200-$250 in overtime charges as well.
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Schmidt asked Kuelbs if he has a provision in his lease that allows him to recover any of the
fines imposed back from his renters-and if not encouraged him to include that language for
the future leases. Hiemenz stated that he found it shocking and disturbing that the students
know what the ordinances are and they violate them anyway. This shows a total disregard for
the community.
Twit stated that Kuelbs clearty knew that there were problems with these tenants in the past,
as he admitted that he even called the police on them once. Kuelbs reiterated that he has
made a point of being present and dealing with issues as they arise. He would have
responded immediately to this problem but he was in California. He stated that he's been
lucky to have been blessed with peaceful tenants up to this point.
Twit stated that this incident was extremely well documented with 130 people in the
basement and 74 ofthem cited for underage consumption. Twit stated that he would hate to
think of a worse case scenario than this. Twit moved to impose a $1,000 fine with
administrative costs and fees and to revoke the license. Loso moved to amend the original
motion, staying the revocation but imposing the $1,000 fine plus administrative costs and
fees. Ehlert seconded the amended motion.
Loso stated that he strongly believes that 95% ofthe fault belongs with the renter here and
only 5% with the landlord. This property hasn1 been a problem in the past. The landlord
takes care of his property and has been very responsible. Immediate revocation would be an
extremely harsh penalty. It would end up being more harmful for him than the actual
perpetrators. Twit stated that landlords are business people and should be treated that way.
He a1so added that this has been a problem house as he has heard fJ1Dm many of the
neighbors in that area. Twit stated that the City is not going to be able to get this under
control until the Council makes a strong statement. Loso argued that this statement would be
unjust. This landlord is not irresponsible or a slumlord and is not the type of landlord the City
should punish.
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Twit asked Loso ttlen if he is willing to allow this to happen in other aneas of town because he
feels like we are setting a precedent here. Twit stated again that he couldn't foresee anything
worse.
Ehlert stated that he agrees with Loso in that this isn1 the type of landlord we should be going
after. Kuelbs should be allowed to leave town and not have to worry. Ehlert stated that he is
disheartened about the whole situation because the City has been working haft! on these
issues. Ehlert stated that he isn1 saying this situation is ok, only that the landlord shouldn.'t
shoulder all of the blame. Twit stated that the landlord is responsible for the property 24
hours per day.
Hiemenz stated that people in the house knew what they were doing. The residents and the
Council cannot condone this behavior. Hiemenz stated that he believ'e5 the original motion is
appropriate.
Loso argued that the Council is taking away this landlord's livelihood with this penalty. The
tenants screwed up, not the landlord. Requiring him to let the property sit vacant for a year
isn1 fair.
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Chief Will stated that there were three total calls on the property this year: this one, one
where the landlord himself called it in and one where the noise stoP¡JeQ by the time the
officers arrived. Loso stated that the City shouldn1 punish the land\QQl for calling the police
himself. Hiemenz called the question of whether to impose a $1,000 fine p/lls administrative
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costs and fees plus a stayed revocation for 12 months. Ehlert and Loso voted yes. Hiemenz
and Twit voted no. The motion failed 2:2.
Twit made the original motion to impose $1,000 fine plus administrative costs and fees and to
revoke the rental license immediately. Hiemenz seconded the motion. The motion failed 2:2
(Ehlert and Loso voting no, Twit and Hiemenz voting yes).
Twit made B motion to suspend the license for six months and impose the $1,000 fine plus
administrative costs and fees. Hiemenz seconded the motion. Ehlert asked when the six
months would start and then expressed concem that the landlord would not be able to rent
out the property 3 months into the school year. Kuelbs stated that he might be able to get a
family in at that time, but that it would be difficult.
Ehlert stated that even with the monetary fine, this would be the steepest penalty imposed to
date. This would be sending a message and not punishing the landlord. Twit stated that this
would be sending the message that this type of behavior is ok. Ehlert disagreed. Hiemenz
called the question of whether to suspend the license for six months plus $1000 fine and
administrative costs and fees. The motion failed 2:2. (Hiemenz and Twit voting yes, Ehlert
and Loso voting no).
Hiemenz made a motion to impose the $1,000 fine, plus administrative costs, overtime and
fees and to suspend ihe license for three months. In addition, if there are any incidents in the
next twelve months, the license will be suspended for an additional twelve months from the
date of the incident. Loso seconded the motion. The motion passed 4:0.
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5. Approve Minutes -Loso made a motion to approve theminutes of 5/4100. Ehlert seconded
the motion and it passed unanimously.
6. Bills Payable and OvertimelCallouts - Twit made a motioil to approve the bills payable.
Loso seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. Twit made a motion to approve the
callouts, seconded by Ehlert. The motion passed unanimously.
7. 8:00 Street Vacation Public Hearing - Cedar Street - Schmidt stated that the latest copy
ofthe resolution and agreement that the Council received only had a feW minor changes
regarding the partnership language. The City Attomey added language that allows the city to
tear up asphalt or landscaping as necessary. It doe not only limit the City's protection to
destruction.of the garbage storage unit. The City Attomey also added a section which
authorizes the Mayor and City Clerk to execute a Quit Claim Deed, deeding the City's interest
in the vacated street to the adjacent property owners, subject to the reserved easements.
Twit made a motion to approve the resolution vacating a portion of Cedar street and the
agreement between the City and Triple K Partnership. Loso seconded the motion and it
passed unanimously (4:0). Lou Krebsbach asked for clarification whether or not this included
the setback for the dumpster. Weyrens clarified stating that the resolution and agreement
approved the location of the dumpster. Ehlert asked Schmidt to make sure that the Planning
Commission was aware ofthis decision.
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8. Engineering Report - Survey Requirements - New Housing drainage problem-
Bettendorf explained that they are finding that many new homeowners do not know where
their lot comers are, and are not aware of easements and protective covenants on their
property. Despite the efforts of staff to put procedures into place to prevent these things from
happening, some realtors and homebuilders don1 want to cooperate. Once the lot is sold, the
Developer and Realtor are out of the picture and the builder takes over. The Builder or
subèontractor landscape with little regard to how their work affects the sùrrounding
properties. This leaves problems for the City and the homeowner. Bettendorf suggested
tþat the City adopt a procedure similar to what is being used in Rogers, Minnesota. The first
Step in the process is that no building permits are issued until the site grading for the
development phase has been completed and approved. Once the site grading has been
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completed, the Developer and Registered Land Surveyor verify that site grading has been
completed according to the approved site grading plan submitted with the preliminary plat I
documents. Elevations are taken on air lot comers, all building pads and on drainage breaks,
ponding sites, ditches and swayles. The Developer then submits a copy ofthe approved
grading plan showing the "as built" elevations. This informalion is checked by the City. If
everything matches the original grading plan, the as-built grading plan becomes the approved
Development Plan. The Developer has now met his site grading requirements and búilding
permits can be issued.
This is the time that the builder enters the picture. Before the Builder can be given a building
permit, he mist submit, from a Registered Land Surveyor, a Certificate of Survey showing
proposed elevations for lot comers, the building pad and side and rear lot lines; these
elevations must agree with the approved Development Plan. Drainage arrows are provided,
showing how the lot is to drain. Also shown would be proposed elevalions for grade at the
front and read, and at the lookoutlwalkout levels ofthe house being built. Finally, the
certificate must show all easements and setbacks for the house building built. When this
certificate has been checked and approved by the City, a building permit can be issued.
When the house has been completed and the lot restored to final d~aft, but before it is sodded
or seeded, the Builder's Surveyor provides an "as built" Certificate Survey documenting the
final in place elevations and setbacks. Ifthese elevations agree with the Proposed grades,
and if the setbacks are okay, the lot can be sodded or seeded and a Certificate of Occupancy
issued. Finally, for winter conditions where the house is ready but the final landscaping
cannot be completed until Spring, an escrow is deposited with the City until the final grading
can be checked out.
Ehlert stated that this sounds like a good tool, but asked how much added cost would be
incurred. Bettendorf stated that it shouldn1 bee too much as it really only means another day
of survey time, approximately ($t 50-$200). Twit asked what this means for the homebuyer
and Bettendorf stated that in his opinion, this means an extra $250 for the homebuyer.
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Bettendorf explained that this has been a problem in the last few developments and this
process should help curb those problems in the Mure. Loso asked how it would be enforced
and Bettendorf explained that it would become part ofthe developer's agreement. Loso
made a motion to accept the new housing drainage and permit procedure, seconded by Twit.
The motion passed unanimously. (4:0)
Bettendorf stated that he would like to create a development manual for the City that
developers would purchase that want to work in St. Joseph. Ehlert expressed some concern
that we might be duplicating requirements here and wants to make it convenient for the home
owner. Bettendorf stated that they could provide a list of surveyors for the convenience of the
homeowners. Bettendorf added that the developers and builders are not going to like this
process. In addition, we are the only community in the area doing this. Bettendorf stated that
it was met with some· reluctance in Rogers in the beginning, but they now embrace the
process.
Bettendorf stated that he and staff would also like to talk about the 121 survey. The initial
interest surveys that were sent to the Township residents have come in. The results are
pretty close. There were 62 surveys mailed, with 54 responding. 24 voted yes for annexation
and City services, with 27 voting no. 3 ofthe respondents made no oommitments. There
were 8 total that didn1 respond. 38% favor the jmprovements and 43% are against them, with
8% not responding.
Schmidt stated that the City is contesti~ the population from the Statle Demographer's office.
They hope to hear from them by the 10 of June. Schmidt stated that if the Council wants to
move forward with this project that we need to schedule an informaliol1al meeling and a
public hearing. After much discussion, the Council decided on June 13th at 8:00 for the
informational meeting and June 19'h for the Public hearing (If necessary).
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Ehlert stated that it seems clear that many of the "no' votes were from people that didn1 have:
enough information. There was also some discussion as to whether and when the County ,
could come in and tell them that they have to fIX their system. Bettendorf stated that the
County will require this, particular1y if the property is sold.
Loso expressed concern that this project is too expensive and that the City if merely
subsidizing a private developer. Hiemenz and Ehlert disagreed stating that the property
owners, whoever they may be, would pay their fair share. Twit added that depending on how
the meetings go, it might not be beneficial to annex at all.
Bettendorf stated that he hoped to have a better idea of costs by the informational meeting on
the 13'h.
Bettendorf stated that he spoke with Council member Loso about the issue with Ben
Hollerman and the cost split. He stated that it's interesting because one of the respondents to
the survey actually asked for the costs to be lumped together and not separated out as was
done in the previous projects that caused so much controversy. Loso asked that the issue
with Ben Hollerman be placed on the agenda for the second meeting in June when
Bettendorf returns from vacation.
Finally, Bettendorf stated that the last storm caused a number of washouts in town. One of
them occurred on the Minnesota Street pond near Ar1ington Place. There are also a number
of other spots in town where the areas need to be refilled and re-seeded. Ar1ington Place will
be dealing with their wash out. It will be the City's responsibility to take care of the other
areas. Bettendorf recommended that the city hire a contractor to take care of the individual
washouts. Loso made a motion to authorize the City to hire a contractor to take care of the
wash out areas. Ehlert seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. (4:0)
Loso asked Bettendorf about the storm water outlet by the Millstream Park. Bettendorf
reported that this is part of the City's Capital Improvement program.
9. Public Comments on the Agenda - There were no public comments on the agenda.
10. Amendment to Buettner Development Agreement - Loso made a motion to approve the
amendment to the Buettner Development Agreement allowing him to extend the time duration
from June 1, 2000 to December 1, 2000 to relocate his trees. Ehlert seconded the motion and
it passed unanimously. (4:0)
11. Discussion of Ground Lease Agreement between 1he City of St. Joseph and the St
Joseph Economic Development Authority - Hiemenz stated that it was necessary to split
the ground lease and the building lease of the building into two separate documents. Loso
made a motion to approve the ground lease agreement, seconded by Ehlert. The motion
passed unanimously. (4:0)
12. Mayor's report - Hiemenz reported that he spoke with a number of other Cities that are also
having some problems with their building inspector. There is concern that he may be
spreading himself too thin. Hiemenz also reported on a number of meetings he attended
involving feedlot regulations, the Great River Regional Library and the steams County
MunicipalLeague. Hiemenz also reported that he spoke to some of the neighbors
surrounding the Pole Barn in pondview and informed them that the City does not have the
authority to enforce covenants.
13. Council Reports -Twit had no report. Ehlert reported that he and Schmidt would be
meeting with the Martinez's to talk about the bid on the Roth property. Loso stated he
wanted to bring something up, but would wait in the interest of time.
14. Clerk! Administrator Report - Schmidt reported on a few upcoming meetings. The Rental
Committee has finished its report and the Council will see it 011 the next agenda.
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15. MiScellaneous and Announcement Items -Chief Will addressed some of the statements
regarding expenditures for coverage of Disorientation that were made in the St. Cloud Times
article.
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16. Closed Session - The Council decided to wait to discuss the AFSCME contract until the
meeting on Wednesday, May 24th at 4:30 PM, when all ofthe Council Members could be
present.
17. Adjourn -10:10 Loso made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Ehlert. The motion passed
unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Cari Schmidt
Clerk/Administrator
City of St Joseph
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